I am a physician. When I was in active practice I was making an excellent income. I never had to worry about the cost of my medications. Once I retired my income dropped and I also had to buy all of my ever increasing list of medications. As the cost of medications was a substantial part of my family’s budget, I started searching for Online certified pharmacies that have lower prices. After investigating numerous pharmacies in the USA, Canada

Will the good Dr. Gupta outlaw the Bayer from selling products in the USA

Bayer Exposed ( HIV Contaminated Vaccine )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wg-52mHIjhs

Bayer Sells AIDS-Infected Drug Banned in U.S. in Europe, Asia - Unearthed documents show that the drug company Bayer sold millions of dollars worth of an injectable blood-clotting medicine -- Factor VIII concentrate, intended for hemophiliacs -- to Asian, Latin American, and some European countries in the mid-1980s, although they knew that it was tainted with AIDS. Bayer knew about the fact that the drug was tainted and told the FDA to keep things under wraps while they made a profit off of a drug that infected its patients. If these allegations are true, then both Bayer and the FDA are at fault for this catastrophe. FDA regulators helped to keep the continued sales hidden, asking the company that the problem be ''quietly solved without alerting the Congress, the medical community and the public,'' according to the minutes of a 1985 meeting

Will the good Dr. Gupta allow Monsanto to continue and allow state to remove labling so we the consumer know what we are putting into our bodies..

http://current.com/items/89707535/kansas_dept_of_agriculture_looking_to_stop_labelling_of_milk_without_rbgh.htm

Now state departments of agriculture are looking into denying consumers the right to know if there is rBGH in their milk. There is a case already pending in Ohio, and now Kansas.
It appears Eli Lilly which was sold the patent to POSILAC for 300 million from Monsanto is carrying on their bullying tradition What gives them the right to tell retailers and farmers that they cannot place a "no rBGH hormone" label on their milk if it does not have it?

And the lie that comes from Monsanto and the Dept of Agriculture heads that there is no difference is just that... a lie. If that is the case, cows given it would not be sick with mastitis. It is also a known fact that POSILAC creates more IGF-1 which is the hormone that allows cancer cells to grow.
It has already been proven by doctors, but yet government continues to lie for Monsanto and now Eli Lilly in order to protect their precious profits over the consumers' democratic right to know and their health

When this came up in Ohio last summer many people wrote into their state legislature to complain and state that they wanted labelling.
The same needs to happen in Missouri now If you live in Kansas and you want your democratic right to know preserved, write to the Dept. of Agriculture and the state legislature or call and demand disclosure.
The fact they would try to keep this off the label is very telling

Fox News Kills Monsanto Milk Story
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=axU9ngbTxKw

Dan

Thank you very much for your comments..

Dan i have many books on Cancer that you are more then welcome to them if you would like..

They are in PDF format you can email from my myspace page and i can send them to you if you would like..

Jared

Jared, my friend, you have totally blown me away with the "Stand by Me" music video!
That has got to be the most awe inspiring piece I've ever seen.
Thank you so much, from the bottom of my heart, for sharing that with us.
I can't imagine what my life would be without having been able to see and hear that incredible video!
Wow! I'm absolutely speechless!
Thank you again Jared!

Eric, I'd give anything if you could air that video somehow! I wish I had it on video tape! That was absolutely AWESOME!

Absolutely wonderful music.

Have bookmarked PlayingForChange to watch how the schools progress. What a gem.

One Love

Interview Playing for Change..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CHU0BTGHe3g

We can't forget what "BLOWBACK" does to peace in the world...

There is a cause and effect to wars...

And much of the USA's foreign policy is the cause of so much "BLOWBACK" in the world..

Bob Marley - Trenchtown Rock: Live At The Rainbow

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M23-zbI11cM

Lyrics

One good thing about music, when it hits you fell no pain [repeat]
So hit me with music, hit me with music
Hit me with music, hit me with music now
I got to say trench town rock
I say don't watch that
Trench town rock, big fish or sprat
Trench town rock, you reap what you sow
Trench town rock, and everyone know now
Trench town rock, don't turn your back
Trench town rock, give the slum a try
Trench town rock, never let the children cry
Trench town rock, cause you got to tell Jah, Jah

You grooving Kingston 12, grooving, Kingston 12
Grooving woe, woe, it's Kingston 12
Grooving it's Kingston 12
No want you fe galang so,
No want you fe galang so
You want come cold I up
But you can't come cold I up
Cause I'm grooving, yes I'm grooving

I say one good thing, one good thing
When it hits you feel no pain
One good thing about music
When it hits you feel no pain
So hit me with music
Hit me with music now
Hit me with music, hit me with music
Look at that, Trench Town rock
I say don't watch that, Trench Town rock
If you big fish or sprat, Trench Town rock
You reap what you sow, Trench Town rock
And everyone know now, Trench Town rock
Don't turn your back, Trench Town rock
Give the slum a try, Trench Town rock
Never let the children cry, Trench Town rock
Cause you got to tell Jah, Jah why
Grooving, grooving, grooving, grooving

Addicted to War: Why the U.S. Can't Kick Militarism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_E0Ji8tkvw

The Publisher Frank Dorrel is a very good friend of mine..

Re: STAND BY ME

What an uplifting, joyful video. Ah, the magic of a camera and imagination. One love.

Playing for Change: Stand by me from around the world

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Us-TVg40ExM

Playing For Change is a multimedia movement created to inspire, connect, and bring peace to the world through music.

House Overwhelmingly Pass Bill Cheering Israeli War on Gaza

Bill Blames Hamas for All Civilian Casualties, Presses Egypt to Tighten Border
Earlier this afternoon, the United States House of Representatives voted 390-5 in favor of H. RES. 34, voicing their support for the Israeli military effort in the Gaza Strip.

The bill, co-sponsored by 11 representatives, demanded that Hamas end its rocket fire against Israel and renounce violence, while expressing “vigorous support and unwavering commitment” to Israel and declaring that its two weeks of attacks on the Gaza Strip were rightful acts of self-defense.

The bill also demanded that all nations condemn Hamas for breaking the “calm” (quotes were in the original draft text) and that the nations also recognize that the thousands of civilian casualties caused by the Israeli attacks were entirely the fault of Hamas. The bill also called on Egypt to tighten its borders to prevent “smuggling” into the Gaza Strip and promised US support to that end.

Four Democrats, Representatives Dennis Kucinich (OH), Maxine Waters (CA), Gwen Moore (WI), and Nick Rahall (WV) and one Republican, Ron Paul (TX) voted against the resolution. 22 other members voted “present” and 16 others did not vote.

The vote echoed a similar vote in the Senate yesterday, which “allows for the long-term improvement of daily living conditions of the ordinary people of Gaza” while likewise proclaiming attacks against them self-defense.

http://news.antiwar.com/2009/01/09/house-overwhelmingly-passes-bill-cheering-israeli-war-on-gaza/

Ron Paul: Israel Created Hamas
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z6vMAoFwf4

Kucinich Documents Israel's War Crimes On The Record!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2X35OAb2wGo

I agree with Jozie. Eric shaking your fist at the camera (or at Kriski) always makes me smile. Checking for yellow before you lie down to make snow angels...classic! Fighting with Kriski, period...priceless!

We all watch KTLA because you all make us smile. If we wanted straight faces we’d be watching CNN, or any of the other all news formats. Even before you brought in reporters with deliberate comedic attitudes we were laughing with all of you.

Yes I even think having a humorous edge to our blogging here relieves some of the angst of the heavy subject matters.

So joke on Eric..although you may not get our humor (your wondering if we knew you were joking because we actually discussed the possibilities)... But I’ll take a smile anytime over a frown. ^-^

So Keep it fresh and we'll keep talking and on occasion discuss something silly just because!

Eric:

Hopefully you never "quit trying to be funny."

The majority of us don't tune into KTLA Morning News because we're looking for Steve Carrell, Steve Martin or Steve Harvey.

If trends in news coverage bleeds over from nightly news there's definitely room for funny in the morning news room as witnessed by the popularity of Bill Mahr, DL Hughley and your fav, Stephen Colbert. If we don't find humor in our lives we'll all go depressed. I, for one, don't want to see life through a veil of Prozac (casting no aspersions on those who use Prozac). I much prefer a good laugh.

One point I concede to Sean, you're an "incredible Journalist." Keep the funny in your act. Don't leave all the hardy-har-hars to Kriski.

Lakota See Through Obama

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oUUTJref1jE

Message From Russell Means

What happened to the Commandment Thou should not kill?

"To all:

The suggestions of Lou Dobbs and John Walsh for Cabinet positions are NOT serious. They are just my own lame attempt at humor.

I hope you all realize that.

Posted by: Eric Spillman | January 09, 2009 at 07:34 AM"

Eric, Eric, ERIC! Did you learn nothing from your Iphone 3G experience? YOU'RE NOT A COMEDIAN!
You are however an incredible Journalist! Stick to what you know, quit trying to be funny!

Although, in my opinion I think John Walsh would make a very smart choice for some kind of cabinet post! Something to do with the abuse of children or exploitation of children - or the FBI's Most Wanted!
You weren't far off base on that one. John Walsh has done an extraordinary job with America's Most Wanted and all in the name of his son! I really respect John Walsh and I think that should be a serious consideration and not make a joke using his name. Now that's just my opinion!

If you really think you have comedic talent, then why don't you audition for the next "Last Comic Standing".
Otherwise, stick to what you do so well - THE NEWS!

My main point, is if HISTORY has taught us anything....leave the comedy to the comedians!

From: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123137263059962659.html#printMode

* JANUARY 8, 2009

No Charge: In Civil-Contempt Cases, Jail Time Can Stretch On for Years

By ASHBY JONES

One can spend a long time in jail in the U.S. without ever being charged with a crime.

It happened to H. Beatty Chadwick, a former Philadelphia-area lawyer, who has been behind bars for nearly 14 years without being charged.

Businessman Manuel Osete spent nearly three years in an Arizona jail without ever receiving a criminal charge. And investment manager Martin Armstrong faced a similar situation when he was held for more than six years in a Manhattan jail.

All three men were jailed for civil contempt, a murky legal concept. Some scholars say it is too often abused by judges, to the detriment of those charged and their due-process rights. "These results of too many civil-contempt confinements are flatly outrageous and often unconstitutional," says Jayne Ressler, a professor at Brooklyn Law School.

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Martin Armstrong
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Martin Armstrong was jailed for six years for civil contempt.
Martin Armstrong
Martin Armstrong

In some contexts, the federal system limits civil-contempt confinement to 18 months. Some states have similar limits. But in other states, judges face few restrictions on how long someone can be held in civil contempt.

A judge generally can issue either a civil or criminal contempt charge whenever he or she feels that a party has disobeyed an order or has disrupted a proceeding.

In a criminal contempt charge, which is aimed at punishing bad behavior, a defendant is afforded the due-process safeguards of the criminal system, including a possible jury trial.

Civil contempt charges, on the other hand, are meant to be coercive, issued to force behavior such as making a witness testify, compelling a journalist to reveal sources or strong-arming a parent into paying child support. Because civil "contemnors" hold the key to their own freedom -- after all, complying will spring them -- they aren't given the same due-process rights as criminal defendants.

If someone held for civil contempt can't meet the judge's order, theoretically, the confinement should end. And while long-term civil confinements are unusual, problems arise when a court doesn't believe the person. With the party and judge at loggerheads over, say, the availability of funds, it is often the contemnor who loses, forced to remain behind bars at the mercy of a skeptical judge. That has sparked cries for reform.

Consider Mr. Chadwick's case. In 1994, during divorce proceedings, a Delaware County judge held Mr. Chadwick in civil contempt for failing to put $2.5 million in a court-controlled account. He says he lost the money in bad investments; his wife's attorney claimed he had hidden it offshore. In April 1995, Mr. Chadwick was arrested and detained. Nearly 14 years later, Mr. Chadwick, who suffers from non-Hodgkin's lymphoma, is still in jail -- even after a retired judge was hired to help locate the money, and failed.

"The money is gone," says Mr. Chadwick's lawyer, Michael Malloy. "The coercive effect of this order is gone; it has turned into a life sentence."

The judge who held Mr. Chadwick in contempt in 1994 couldn't be reached for comment, but he has said publicly that he doesn't believe Mr. Chadwick lacks the funds.

Few argue that civil-contempt confinement should be abandoned altogether. "The threat of jail is sometimes the only thing that will make a person comply with a court order," says Adam Winkler, a professor at UCLA law school.

For some, including Albert Momjian, the lawyer for Mr. Chadwick's ex-wife, the theory still holds. "There's no doubt in my mind that he has the money and could walk out of jail next week if he wanted to," says Mr. Momjian.

Critics question why the burden rests with contemnors such as Mr. Chadwick to prove they don't have the money, rather than with a prosecutor to prove they do. "It runs counter to our entire system to say 'It's your burden to prove a negative,'" says Brooklyn Law School's Ms. Ressler.

Another concern: While those sent to jail for civil contempt may appeal their confinements, appellate judges often will overturn lower-court rulings only if they find an "abuse of discretion," a standard that offers trial judges wide latitude.

Reformers hope that more states enact laws limiting the terms of civil confinement, as Congress did in 1970, when it passed a statute limiting the length of civil-contempt confinement to 18 months for those who refuse to testify in federal court or to a federal grand jury. After that, if civil confinement hasn't coerced a certain behavior, the burden would fall to the government to bring criminal charges.

"As a matter of due process, I think 18 months is enough in most cases," says Thomas Sjoblom, the lawyer for Martin Armstrong. Mr. Sjoblom argued unsuccessfully that the 1970 law should have extended to the situation involving his client, who failed to produce $15 million in gold and antiquities in a civil suit alleging securities fraud. "After that, let the government prove a criminal case." Mr. Armstrong is currently serving a five-year sentence for criminal conspiracy.

Of course, such a limit might give contemnors an incentive to wait, knowing that eventually they will be reunited with their riches.

Nonetheless, some states are modifying their laws. In the midst of the situation involving Mr. Osete, who was detained in Arizona from late 2002 to late 2005 for refusing to hand over more than $800,000 in alimony and interest payments, which he said he didn't have, the Arizona Supreme Court changed its rules. Now, Arizona courts must hold hearings every 35 days for those held in civil contempt on family-law issues, and judges must find that a contemnor has the ability to comply with the order.

Write to Ashby Jones at ashby.jones@wsj.com

Yes Jared LOL... I also saw Colin Powell there! But I bet he wouldn't be welcome now. Not after he endorsed Obama! Hmmm.... to be a fly on the wall around that summer campfire!

Yes Eric, we all knew it was a joke..but it's better than the real news to discuss...

Like ..The absolutely horrendous situation on the Gaza strip.

Or ...Rod Blagojevich FINALLY having steps taken to have him impeached. What were they waiting for anyway?? If he had of been a minority such as an African American or Hispanic ... he would have been impeached immediately, and already in jail weeks ago! It looks like they finally decided to put a stop to him before he appointed anymore people that would vote to protect him. I guess he's not as stupid as he looks!

Then there's the even worst news of unemployment reaching outrageous proportions not since WW2, has it been this people unemployed! Yet the media and the powers that be, still are not calling this a Depression. Sure it’s not! Yeah right!!! Even though we hear every moment that things are so dire and it's not done yet!!Supposedly things are going to get even worst. But they keep saying that this is a recession not a depression. Do they think we’re all that stupid? If they don’t really tell us the truth. Then we won’t figure it out all by ourselves? Hey Eric can you tell the "news predictors" If you report the news -then tell the truth not a version that the powers that be decides it’s best to tell us. It certainly looks like We ARE in a depression! It may not be easy to swallow but neither is this economy! But you can’t show us how terrible it is every minute on the news... then still try to convince us otherwise by using a gentler title! Which is it?

Aretha Franklin had a song that said “Who’s Zooming Who?”

http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=4Z1mTk-TH4M&feature=related

Aaah...Music the perfect antidote for the news!!

Dick Armey and Ron Paul Discuss Obama Stimulus Plans

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=POgNcP9h_k0

http://www.campaignforlibertry.com

Eric-

Rule # 1 in comedy -

If you have to explain it...

then it ain't funny....

But, it was fun seeing a Lou Dobbs suggestion lead to all sorts of fun topics...

And only our dear friend Jared can lead us to Bohemian Grove Rituals... now that was interesting...

-m

PLM

It wasn't my intent to make you like Lou Dodds...

Also, the Bo Ho Club isn't just for a bunch of old white republicans..

German Chancellor Helmut Schmidt , Jimmy Carter, Jack Kemp, Walter Cronkite and Art Linkletter..

http://www.government-propaganda.com/bohemian-grove.html

wadada

jozielee

Ok on topic

From: http://www.naturalnews.com/News_000649_Dr_Sanjay_Gupta_Obama_Surgeon_General.html

Here We Go: Obama Wants CNN Doctor Sanjay Gupta as Surgeon General

by Mike Adams, the Health Ranger, January 6, 2009

President-elect Barack Obama's choice for U.S. Surgeon General is reportedly CNN journalist Dr. Sanjay Gupta, a pro-vaccine pusher with ties to Merck.

Dr. Sanjay Gupta is a strong proponent of the Gardasil HPV vaccine, and the television show he once hosted ("Accent Health") was primarily sponsored by Merck, makers of Gardasil.

Gupta is also well known for his argument with Michael Moore over statements of fact in Moore's health care documentary, Sicko. A YouTube video of that argument is available here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR2U_SAWHdQ

In April, 2008, NaturalNews readers participated in a survey rating various traits of popular health journalists. Here's how Dr. Sajay Gupta rated:

29% Humble / 71% Not
31% Generous / 69% Not
67% Healthy / 33% Not
37% Authentic / 63% Not
77% Intelligent / 23% Not
32% Honest / 68% Not
23% Informed / 77% Not

In other words, NaturalNews readers see Dr. Gupta as being intelligent and healthy, but dishonest, misinformed, fake and arrogant.

Now he's poised to become the Surgeon General of the United States. Just what we need, huh? Another pill-pushing, vaccine-pimping Washington bureaucrat with ties to Big Pharma. I told you folks that Obama wasn't going to end Big Pharma's business as usual, and this vaccine-pumping choice for Surgeon General is a disturbing example of yet more pro-Pharma decisions to come.

So who should really be U.S. Surgeon General? Well Dr. Julian Whitaker, of course. His knowledge of nutrition and public health is vastly superior to that of Dr. Sanjay Gupta. But Dr. Whitaker would teach the American people how to cure diabetes, heart disease and cancer using nutritional therapies, and then the whole economy would collapse thanks to all the out-of-work disease industry doctors. So they can't let that happen, right?

Then again, Dr. Gupta is, indeed, a bonafide brain surgeon. That might come in handy in Washington, come to think of it. Maybe he can perform a little brain surgery on his fellow Washingtonian bureaucrats and find a way to restore the common sense they all apparently lost when they got elected.

Get ready for a whole new mandatory vaccination push under the Obama administration, folks. It's the same scam that's been running under the Bush Administration, but now it's going to be disguised as "public health policy." Yep, all those vaccines are President Obama's way of caring for the American people, didn't you know?

Big Business always wins in Washington. As long as the corporations are running the lawmakers and the politicians, the People are always going to get screwed. The only thing that changes is the face of the person fronting the scam -- and the name of the political party he belongs to. Republican or Democrat, it doesn't matter: Virtually all politicians secretly belong to the same, single party called the Big Business Party, and their decisions are made to please Big Business, not to protect the People.

You might as well start making your vaccination protest banners right now. With Gupta at the helm, America is going to be a whole new Vacci-Nation.

Lou Reed 1976 - Walk on the Wild Side
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v1P1tpz5XiU

joe Walsh Lifes Been Good
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzxF-M2erx8

Wait a second: we're talking about Sanjay Gupta.

Looks like he's gonna face a lot of objection in Congress to his appointment. Rep. John Conyers says Gupta doesn't have enough experience to manage such a large agency. No telling who else will side with Conyers. This appointment isn't going to be a slam dunk.

Peter Schiff predictions

Barack Obama's policies will unleash a greater economic crisis than the world is now facing, believes US financial forecaster, Peter Schiff.

From: Russia Today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9h2x7R8pxUs

Peter Schiff predicted about our economic problems 4 years ago and others laughed at him...
Peter was also Ron Paul's economic adviser during his campaign, but as Peter puts it Dr. Ron was was really Peter's adviser on economics...

I gt a kick out of how Cheney is washing his hands of the economic problem by saying , I don't think anybody saw it coming."

Yet Dr. Paul has been talking about this coming for 30 years..

In this interview http://news.aol.com/article/cheney-cia-did-nothing-illegal-in/299308?cid=12

If Eric had said "Lou Reed and Joe Walsh" I wouldn't have had a clue who he was talking about. LOL

Lou Dobbs sets off all kinds of fireworks for me. I think of him as my antidote to sanity. I may not agree with him on most issues but I respect his intelligence and fair play. During his round table discussions the pundits don't always agree with him, which makes for a lively exchange of ideas.

Eric

Now if you said Lou Reed and Joe Walsh..

Maybe we would have picked up on it sooner..... :)

wadada

To all:

The suggestions of Lou Dobbs and John Walsh for Cabinet positions are NOT serious. They are just my own lame attempt at humor.

I hope you all realize that.

Okay Jared I went- I saw! The Bohemian Grove thing that is.

I guess it doesn't surprise me that a bunch of super rich old white republican dudes would have their own secret club. But a summer camp kinda like the one kids attend every summer? Well except for the naked thing that is...that's kind of freaky!! Especially the naked bon fire thing...looks a little too much like an old KKK meeting minus the white sheets...to me!!

Okay so maybe since Gergen worked for 2 former Republican presidents he has some strange rituals he participates in over the summer. But that still doesn’t make me like Lou Dobbs any better...I guess we should be lucky that Obama hasn’t picked either one of these guys for a cabinet post.

I did find a site that isn't very up to date (last entry was 1999) but it had a lot of info and pictures about members like Reagan, Bush Sr. a younger Greenspan, Forbes, Nixon, and many more world powers and movers and shakers. Check it out if you're interested. (oh and don’t worry about seeing Nixon’s butt there’s no nudity there^-^)

http://www.sonic.net/~kerry/bohemian/index.html

Thanks for sharing, Jared. As I've said before you can bring info that is little known and this is such a case!

Oh but one request please...before you direct us to a link can you let us know if it's a not a US site.? What language was that? That was scrolling on my screen on that Live leak site? Next time I would rather know if I'm being directed to a foreign site... okay Buddy? BTW Happy New year to you too!

Good night all.

jozielee

One last bit..

Dr. Paul is a Lawmaker being a member of the House and a member of the House Senate Banking committee. To me a lawmaker is more important then a president.

AS President Obama no longer has the delegated authority to make laws under the US Constitution(See: Article I, Section 1 US Const.)

As President Obama can set policy, but does not have the Constitutional authority to make laws and if he does just as Bush has done. Obama will have just as Bush has done will have violated his Oath of Office and the US Constitution..

wadada

Hahahaha.

And i don't think i've ever typed about Sarah Palin on this blog..

Because i've never supported her running mate...

In fact this is the first time i've typed about her..

wadada

jozielee

Keeping his name out there!

Ron Paul 2012!

Ron Paul R3volution!

Wolf Blitzer is the man.

No, I didn't remember Elders until reading your post, -mike. None of the others seemed to have a prominent profile. Maybe the war and 911 over shadowed health care.

JARED:
Rewatched the SICKO fact check between Michael Moore and Sanjay Gupta. Saw the original broadcast. Moore seemed intent on being controversial, hence wider exposure for his film, rather than clearing up discrepancies. Ironically, that discussion might have led to Gupta's offer by Obama to become surgeon general. Loved the SICKO movie, by the way. I'm a real MMoore fan.

PLM:
Read the article about Sarkozy and new world order. Heard on the news today he was trying to be the peacemaker between Israel and Hamas cause he wants credit for bringing an end to that conflict. Sounds more like he wants to lead rather than rally the world leaders behind a common goal. I thought world order meant all leaders would share equal power. I need to read more about this subject. Thanks for the link.

JARED:
Why are we still talking about Ron Paul? The presidential campaign is over. Obama won. Yet we keep talking about Ron Paul and Sarah Palin. Can you believe Palin said she would have been treated better by the press if she was a Democrat and was Obama's running mate? How could she be his co-candidate when she kept accusing him of "palling around with terrorists"? Hillary Rosen from the Huffington Post says it's time for Palin to move on and define who she wants to be in the future of politics. That might be wise for both Paul and Palin. We have real problems and need to focus on finding solution. Like Larry Flynt and Joe Francis who want a $5billion bailout for the porn industry, Paul and Palin are wasting our time and blurring our focus, don't you think?

Happy New Year all!

Ron Paul accused of racism by CNN's Wolf Blitzer

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u39z38xjraw

PLM

That is the issue Ron Paul did NOT have a racist past yet David Gergen tried to make it sound like Dr. Paul had a racist past on CNN..

Here is a google search on "Bohemian Grove Rituals" for both internet browsers MS Internet Explorer and Firefox..

IE
http://www.google.com/search?q=Bohemian+Grove+Rituals&rls=com.microsoft:en-us&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&startIndex=&startPage=1

Firefox
http://www.google.com/search?q=Bohemian+Grove+Rituals&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

Cremation of Care

The Cremation of Care ceremony was devised in 1893 by a member named Joseph D. Redding, a lawyer from New York.[11] It was originally scheduled to follow the serious "High Jinks" dramatic performance (later known as the Grove Play) on the first weekend of the summer encampment, and served as a catharsis for pent-up high spirits. In 1913, the ceremony was separated from the Grove Play and moved to the first night to become "an exorcising of the Demon to ensure the success of the ensuing two weeks". The Grove Play was moved to the last weekend of the encampment.[13]

The ceremony involves the poling of a small boat across a lake containing an effigy of Care (called "Dull Care"). Dark, hooded figures receive from the ferryman the effigy which is placed on an altar and at the end of the ceremony, is set on fire. This "cremation" symbolizes that members are banishing the "dull cares" of conscience.[2]

The ceremony takes place in front of a 45-foot (14 m) high hollow owl statue made of concrete over expanded metal framing and steel supports. The moss- and lichen-covered statue simulates a natural rock formation, yet holds electrical and audio equipment within it. During the ceremony, a recording of the voice of Walter Cronkite, a member of the Bohemian Club, is used as the voice of The Owl.[1] Music and pyrotechnics accompany the ritual for dramatic effect.

Mike

As you can see that they are openly talking about a one world economic order...

"The world can therefore seize the opportunity [Persian Gulf crisis] to fulfill the long-held promise of a New World Order where diverse nations are drawn together in common cause to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind."
George Herbert Walker Bush

"Other countries will not take lectures about the so-called new world order from a British prime minister who cannot deliver basic public services run by his own failing government."
Tony Blair, 5th January, 2002

"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order."
- David Rockefeller

"One of the least understood strategies of the world revolution now moving rapidly toward its goal is the use of mind control as a major means of obtaining the consent of the people who will be subjects of the New World Order."
From The National Educator, K.M. Heaton

"Undersecretary of State Sumner Welles tonight called for the early creation of an international organization of anti-Axis nations to control the world during the period between the armistice at the end of the present war and the setting up of a new world order on a permanent basis."
Text of article in The Philadelphia Inquirer (June 1942)

"The statement went on to say that the spiritual teachings of religion must become the foundation for the new world order and that national sovereignty must be subordinate to the higher moral law of God."
American Institute of Judaism, excerpt from article in The New York Times (December 1942)

"There are some plain common-sense considerations applicable to all these attempts at world planning. They can be briefly stated: 1. To talk of blueprints for the future or building a world order is, if properly understood, suggestive, but it is also dangerous. Societies grow far more truly than they are built. A constitution for a new world order is never like a blueprint for a skyscraper."
Norman Thomas, in his book What Is Our Destiny? (1944)

"The United Nations, he told an audience at Harvard University, 'has not been able--nor can it be able--to shape a new world order which events so compellingly demand.' ... The new world order that will answer economic, military, and political problems, he said, 'urgently requires, I believe, that the United States take the leadership among all free peoples to make the underlying concepts and aspirations of national sovereignty truly meaningful through the federal approach."
Gov. Nelson Rockefeller of New York, in an article entitled "Rockefeller Bids Free Lands Unite: Calls at Harvard for Drive to Build New World Order" -- The New York Times (February 1962)

"He [President Nixon] spoke of the talks as a beginning, saying nothing more about the prospects for future contacts and merely reiterating the belief he brought to China that both nations share an interest in peace and building 'a new world order."
Excerpt from an article in The New York Times (February 1972)

One of my favorite speeches by John F. Kennedy..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h70PakHjy0Q

Happy New Year to you too Mike!

Okay Jared I watched the ambush interview but I still didn't get from the video just what is Bohemian Grove Rituals? Am I going to be sorry I asked?

Also you say Ron Paul has a racist past? And that makes him ...what ? Special? As you tell us all the time?

Not to open up a can of worms here but ...really!

Jared - look what I found on one of the news pages...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090108/ap_on_bi_ge/eu_france_new_capitalism

PLM - happy new year!

-m

CFR Member David Gergen ambushed about Bohemian Grove Rituals

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=34d_1200029860&p=1

David was trying to smear Ron Paul over his Racist past on CNN and I found this in the archives, footage of CFR
Member David Gergen getting drilled about his past and the response is pure Gold when he gets Busted.

http://www.cfr.org/content/about/annual_report/ar_2001/081-082.pdf

CFR David Gergen talking about the New World Order

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xMtbJ1Dcyek

Oops!! I made a big mistake! I strongly dislike Lou Dobbs! I do sometimes confuse him with a CNN anchor I do love...which is David Gergen! Name switcharoo confusion? Call it the onset of old age, I guess!! Eric you sure you’re not suffering from the same name confusion problem, that I am?? How could you possibly LIKE Lou Dobbs?? You don’t come across as that much of a conservative to me! Oh well!

When I read Eric's suggestion for cabinet members I was thinking of Gergen...when I signed off on Dobbs. Dobbs is so uptight and obnoxious that I immediately change the channel anytime I'm watching CNN and he shows up!

No I was thinking David Gergen, who is very bright and intelligent. In earlier years, he served as a White House advisor to several Presidents. Nixon, Ford, Reagan and Clinton.

He is currently a Senior Political Analyst at CNN and is also currently a professor of public service at Harvard's John F. Kennedy School of Government and director of its Center for Public Leadership.

Gergen would be my choice to replace Bill Richardson for Commerce Secretary.

But Lou Dobbs...let’s see I would not be opposed to him joining the majority of the Americans in the unemployment line!

Michael Moore vs CNN's Sanjay Gupta on Larry King Live

Michael Moore debates Dr. Sanjay Gupta on Larry King Live after Larry shows extracts from Moore on Situation Room the day before and corrected Sanjay Gupta's Sicko "reality check"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oR2U_SAWHdQ

Eric, don't stop keep your suggestion for picks coming...

Hey Jozie,

I think with your Dobbs story, you may have just solved some of the overcrowding in the schools as well.

And you don't remember Joclyn Elders as Surgeon General?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jocelyn_Elders

She caused quite a stir with her comments...

-m

From: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2009/1/7/104043/1871/240/681144

Sanjay Gupta for Surgeon General - worse than I thought (BIG CORRECTION) updatex4
by DrSteveB
Wed Jan 07, 2009 at 09:15:29 AM PST
There are some real problems with the possible selection of Dr. Sanjay Gupta as Obama's nominee for Surgeon General. And it goes way beyond his being factually wrong in his dust-up with Michael Moore.

Let me start by saying that he is a qualified neurosurgeon and obviously has media skill and connections beyond those of the typical nominee.

However, he has no professional background or training in public health, preventive medicine, and has shown de facto disdain for the basic precepts of evidence based medicine, all of which would be the underlying scientific basis of a Surgeon General.

And he has huge conflicts of interest as a bought-and-paid-for shill for Pharma, that should actually be disqualifying as a so-called journalist, to say nothing of being "Americas Family Physician" or the leader of the Public Health Service.

From: http://www.naturalnews.com/025267.html

Will Dr. Sanjay Gupta Disclose His Financial Ties to Big Pharma? (opinion)
by Mike Adams, NaturalNews Editor

(NaturalNews) As we all learned earlier this week, Dr. Sanjay Gupta is President-elect Obama's choice for Surgeon General. Numerous questions have been raised, however, about Dr. Gupta's ties to pharmaceutical companies and his tendency to promote vaccines and pharmaceuticals while dismissing safety concerns about those drugs.

Do we really need another pill-pushing bureaucrat in Washington? And why couldn't Obama choose somebody who stands a chance of actually reforming the Big Pharma / FDA racket that has caused so much health and financial harm to America already? (Marcia Angell would be a good choice for Surgeon General, it seems...) (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marcia_Angell)

Lou Dobbs for Homeland Security? I . . . don't think so.

He'd be marching half the country to our southern border, shove them over, then yell at them not to come back unless they have a green card.

God love him, the country is safer with Lou behind the microphone. To this day I don't feed my baby any apple juice except Martinelli's because he said all other apple juice is processed in China.

John Walsh is an American hero. There's nothing he can't do. His tenacity is impressive. And he's not camera shy. He might very well be a good pick for the FBI at some point in the future.

And it doesn't hurt that he's easy on the eyes.

OFF TOPIC: Check out the link below of his wedding photos. There was a reason I liked the Sierra Madre float in the Rose Parade. It depicted a Hindi wedding, just like Dr. Gupta's. So traditional, so beautiful, even if it didn't win the KTLA Best Float pick.

ON TOPIC: What I like about the Gupta pick for Surgeon General is his wide appeal. He's current:

* He's easily relatable. Young enough to be relevant to youngsters and teens. Has two small children of his own (age 2, 4), So he's invested in the future.

* He's been to Iraq to work with their surgical staffs, even helping in a few operations himself. And while not credited in his Wiki bio, he went down to New Orleans after Katrina, and in 2004 "reported from Sri Lanka in the aftermath of the tsunami." - from CNN

* He's interested in preventative medicine - proper diet and exercise especially for our youth. Perhaps we'll see the return of the JFK physical fitness program to our schools.

Surgeon General Koop. I remember him best for fighting tobacco & cancer. And I remember SG David Satcher, who campaigned to end infant mortality, HIV/AIDs and promoted early detection and prevention of diabetes. I don't recall any other surgeon general - who they were or what they did.

Somehow I think we'll all remember Dr. Gupta.

THE WEDDING
http://www.instyleweddings.com/weddings/gallery/0,,20166194,00.html

He is a shill of Big Pharma....

My personal opinion.....

Yes, I agree with you Eric on Dr. Sanjay Gupta. Watching Gupta report for CNN it is very obvious that he is very knowledgeable. BTW Eric, I like your other two suggestions for cabinet spots as well.

Obama should tap other avenues for these key offices other than stale Washington insiders. All of the old guard are the ones that got us into to big mess in the first place!! Our country needs fresh new blood. We need outside of the box thinkers like our new Nobel peace prize winning, Secretary of Energy pick, Chu, which I think was an excellent choice.

Yes picking Gupta, a smart neurosurgeon of Indian descent, who also knows his way around a microphone ...shows that just like Obama promised during his campaign, he IS serious about bringing “Change” to the way Washington is run.

As long as Dr. Gupta does not recommend fire eating to be done at home by his viewers, LOL! The Daily Show was goofing on that last night and showed a clip of Dr. Gupta doing the fire eating trick!