I Fought a Red Light Ticket and Won
7:55 PM April 19, 2009
So many people told me it couldn't be done.
After all, there was photographic evidence showing me in an intersection when the light was red. Why not just pay the $400 fine, go to traffic school, and just forget about it?
To fight meant I'd have to take a day off from work, so that I could go to court.
But I felt I had a case.
You see, there were some extenuating circumstances. When you exit the 2 Freeway in Glendale at Mountain and drive down the hill, if you happen to be in the left lane, you learn (just before you approach the signal at Verdugo), that you must turn left.
There's no sign warning you that it's a left turn only lane.
So drivers like me find out at the last minute that they are being forced into a left turn. There isn't any time to correct, and you end up in the crosswalk if your intention is to keep going straight.
The camera flashes, and a few days later, there's a lousy $400 ticket in your mailbox with your photo on it.
Go to court and lose, you'll get a point on your record and pay higher insurance.
So they really have you.
Most people figure it's not worth the gamble. This time I figured it was.
At the courthouse in Glendale, I was one of 25 people with traffic cases on the afternoon calendar.
Before my name was called, even before the judge entered the room, the police officer reviewed my case with me.
He could see on the videotape what had happened, and I explained that the design of the intersection was the reason. He agreed that it had been an ongoing problem, and we discussed how the placement of a sign might help.
Then he dismissed the case.
About half of the other defendants in the courtroom also had their cases dismissed before any trials even started.
So you see that it is possible to fight a red light ticket and win.
I wouldn't try unless you think you can make a good argument, and I'm sure your chances of victory vary from city to city.
But it sure felt good.
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Posted by: dennis the | April 30, 2011 at 04:29 PM
Thank you for the information. We got a similar ticket at the same intersection just recently. We were turning right on Verdugo on a yellow going red while cars where turning left on the opposite street Mountain, so there was no traffic nor pedestrians coming our way, which meant it was safe for us to turn.
After reading your blog, we feel we should try to fight our ticket. Any advice or tips on how to strengthen our defense?
Have you done any documentary for TV on this issue? It would educate us all.
Thanks to you and to all who posted comments, for and against fighting a red-light ticket. We feel more informed about this issue.
Posted by: Another ticketed driver at same intersection | August 06, 2009 at 01:43 PM
... and the fact that you are a recognizable TV celebrity had nothing to do with it, I am sure.
What would have been sop difficult about turning left, if you were in the wrong lane?
You admitted to the cop that you broke two traffic laws: you went straight in a left turn lane, and you ran a red light.
Way to go, Mister Bigshot TV Reporter. Good thing no one was hurt.
Posted by: John McNary | May 30, 2009 at 08:10 AM
Eric,
Did you actually go through the entire intersection or did you stop over the crosswalk only? In our city where I live, the Sheriff's say they only issue tickets if a person goes through the entire intersection. Anyone who stops over the crosswalk, activates the camera, but does not completely go through the intersection does not get a ticket issued. The sheriff says its a hard stop and if a police officer was physically there, instead of a camera, they would not issue a ticket.
Posted by: Drew | May 24, 2009 at 11:14 PM
Why are all of you giving Eric such a hard time?
Who wouldn't want to have ANY traffic ticket dismissed?
Geez!
Posted by: PLM | April 28, 2009 at 06:48 PM
Roger:
Nobody drove onto a sidewalk! I ended up in the crosswalk. The left lane becomes a left-turn-only lane at the bottom of the hill without any signage to warn you. If you intend to go straight, and you try to correct at the last minute, there's no room to do it.
The police officer in the court called my name and showed me the video before the judge entered the room.
That's when I discussed the design of the intersection with him. Sorry you didn't hear it... But he did tell me the design of the intersection has been a problem before.
That's why he dismissed the case.
There wasn't enough evidence to convict. As you know, in our system if a case is dismissed, the defendant is not guilty.
So maybe the 'excuse' wasn't good enough for you, but it was adequate for the officer in the court.
Posted by: eric spillman | April 28, 2009 at 11:57 AM
Can you explain on how the design of the street forces you into the sidewalk? I have never heard of such a poor excuse for running a red light. I was in court on the same day for a red light ticket and saw you speak to the Officer briefly. I didn't see him agreeing with you on poor street design as you say. In fact you along with myself and others were dismissed before court began. Nice try.
Posted by: Roger | April 28, 2009 at 10:37 AM
Good for you. I'm glad you didn't have to pay for that absurdly priced ticket. I worked at the highest level in government and I can tell you these traffic cameras are used only for revenue generation. If they really cared about safety they would simply delay the green off the opposite red. Makes sense doesn't it? Not if you're City Hall. You should do a story on that.
Posted by: rick | April 28, 2009 at 07:24 AM
Mary:
No one would have been in the crosswalk because the green left-turn arrow was on at the time... and so the "don't walk" sign was flashing too.
Eric
Posted by: eric spillman | April 23, 2009 at 07:59 AM
To Mike in Big Bear and other critics:
The purpose of this post was to let people know that it is possible to fight a red light camera ticket. I don't think my case was dismissed because anyone recognized me from TV. Many of the other defendants had their cases dismissed, too.
I am a careful driver (no accidents, no tickets in years, no points on my record). In this case I believed the design of the intersection forces drivers into the crosswalk... and the officer who heard the case agreed it was a problem.
I also think a $400 plus fine is a little high for the offense.
Posted by: eric spllman | April 22, 2009 at 03:47 PM
You should just be thankful there were no pedestrians in the crosswalk when you ran right through it. I guess that is not the important lesson to be learned here. Just you bragging about fighting a ticket and having it dismissed. Good message to send to the public.
Posted by: Mary | April 22, 2009 at 03:31 PM
Hey Eric...Just looked at the pics you posted about fighting the red light ticket. Looks like you were in a lane going straight. What does that have to do with not knowing you have to make a left turn? Also, didn't you grow up in Glendale. I would think you would be familiar with the streets and where/when you can turn. I think your post is just a self-ego boost.
Posted by: Anon | April 22, 2009 at 03:28 PM
Congrats Eric! I've heard other people get out of red light tickets from cameras. In one instance a friend got out of a ticket because the timing between the yellow light to red light wasn’t long enough. It can be done! Great job.
Posted by: Javon | April 21, 2009 at 12:57 PM
I got a TRADITIONAL red light ticket in Walnut a couple of weeks ago. The Deputy asked if I knew why she stopped me... I said I did not.
She explained that I ran the red arrow at the intersection that I just turned thru (LEMON & VEJAR). Now, I saw her just before I made my turn, and I do NOT run red lights, especially right in front of cops.
So I took my ticket, but later that day, I drove thu the same interseciton again... and I noticed that the RED ARROW in question was about 2/3 BURNED OUT! You could barely even make it out.
I plan on fighting this one.
ESPECIALLY since they sent me a letter from the court stating the bail amount on the ticket was $522!!!
What a rip off. I feel like I have a good case, but honestly, I do not think I am going to win. California just needs the money too badly.
Oh, by the way, after she gave me my ticket, Deputy CHO from the LA COUNTY SHERIFF's WALNUT STATION failed to signal just before she pulled an illegal U-TURN IN A SCHOOL ZONE after issuing me my ticket.
I guess she's special.
Posted by: Bill Elliott | April 21, 2009 at 07:52 AM
Yay Eric-very happy for you getting it dismissed. I guess it would be too much to ask for them to fix the problem and save those other people time and money. I wasn't so lucky in Culver city but I tried. You are right doesn't hurt to try if you have a good case.
Posted by: Theresa | April 21, 2009 at 07:40 AM
P.S. it is a good picture of you though :-)
Posted by: Carlos Amezcua | April 20, 2009 at 10:31 PM
Eric,
How many of these stories have we done over the years? It seems perfectly appropriate to question the reason for a ticket and even the so called irrefuteable evidence of a camera. There is always the possibility of extenuating circumstances as was apparently the case in your situation. I know you wouldn't intentionally break the law, but it is in our journalistic nature to question everything, even an "airtight" photo ticket. There's an old Chicago journalism saying that goes, "you say your mother loves you? Check it out!"
Carlos Amezcua
Fox 11 News
Posted by: Carlos Amezcua | April 20, 2009 at 10:28 PM
There is no excuse for running a red light. What is the problem with making the left turn and then turning around and complying with the law. What was so important that you can condone running a red light. Were you on the way to the emergency room? Was someone sick and you had no choice but to run the light? How much of your explanation to the police officer was needed or was it just because you are someone he has seen on TV.
Posted by: Mike in Big Bear | April 20, 2009 at 02:03 PM
Eric congrats on beating the ticket! I live in Glendale and know that intersection well. I've seen that light turn from green to red in less than 2 seconds late at night. In fact, I've thought of going to the Glendale PD to complain about it. I too have had a red-light ticket (in Hollywood). The only ticket I've ever gotten in my whole life. It was one of those stop-and-go situations where traffic is moving and then it just stops. Anyway, wish you guys would do a comprehensive story on red light camera tix. (May sweeps is just around the corner...)
Posted by: CLF | April 20, 2009 at 10:40 AM
You are so lucky the judge didnt hear that weasel out story!
Why did you drive through the red ...huh..huh.. take him to jail.
Posted by: John | April 20, 2009 at 08:05 AM
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Posted by: Jared | April 20, 2009 at 08:00 AM
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Posted by: nikica | April 20, 2009 at 06:29 AM
Congratulations on winning your case.
Your photos remind me of an installment of "Curb Your Enthusiasm." Topic: Larry's obsession with rear-ends.
Larry is tasked to pick up an elderly friend. She's in the passenger's seat. Her suitcase in the back seat falls over. She reaches between the bucket seats to correct it. She stretches further just as their photo is taken by a traffic camera. Two months later the photo arrives in the mail. All you see is his incredulous expression and her rather expansive rear-end. Too funny!
Curb Your Enthusiasm
Season 2, Episode 12, "Thor"
http://www.hbo.com/larrydavid/episode/season2/episode12.html
Posted by: jozielee | April 19, 2009 at 09:56 PM
Welcome back and congrats on winning your ticket. As someone who does a lot of driving for my job, I don't trust red light cameras. Glad to know that there is a chance to win.
Posted by: Paul | April 19, 2009 at 09:17 PM